6. Conversations with BINA48, by Stephanie Dinkins
When machines adopt human identities, whose worldviews shape their consciousness?
Hello readers! Welcome to the another edition of Artful Intelligence. Last week, we explored the tensions between homage and appropriation through Lynn Goldsmith's iconic photograph of Prince and Andy Warhol's transformation of it. Today, we're examining a different kind of transformation—the artistic and philosophical exploration of a social robot designed to mimic human consciousness.
As I write this in April 2025, humanoid robots are poised to have, in the words of one tech founder, “an iPhone moment.” Companies like Figure AI are securing billions in funding to develop robots designed to work alongside humans in factories, warehouses, and even our homes. But it’s also clear from their slick product demo videos that, at least aesthetically, these machines don't attempt to replicate human identity—rather, they present as intelligent servants with AI systems optimized for specific tasks rather than conversation or emotional connection.
Videos of these shining, adamantine machines putting away groceries certainly make it easy to imagine a not-so-distant future where task robots are a feature of our daily lives. But it also made me think of the recent past, specifically an art project by Stephanie Dinkins, now the Kusama Professor of Art at Stony Brook University. I became familiar with her work during my time at Stanford, where she was an artist in residence at the university’s Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence (HAI) in 2019. Since then she’s won more acclaim, like the prestigious LG Guggenheim Award and Schmidt Futures Senior Fellowship, for her pioneering explorations of artificial intelligence and how it intersects with identity.
The story that comes to mind starts in 2014, when Dinkins stumbled upon a YouTube video that would set her on a years-long artistic journey. Titled “BINA48 (Breakthrough Intelligence via Neural Architecture, 48 exaflops per second),” the video captures a fascinating, uncanny conversation between a woman named Bina Rothblatt and the bust of a humanoid robot designed to look like–and talk–just like her. BINA48’s conversational programming was derived from more than 100 hours of interviews with Bina herself, comprising countless memories, beliefs, and opinions.
The real, human Bina had herself commissioned this groundbreaking humanoid AI robot along with her wife Martine Rothblatt, an entrepreneur and cofounder of the Terasem Movement, which explored ways of extending human life through cybernetic means.
The video mesmerized Dinkins. In addition to its technological sophistication (which admittedly looks quite dated by today’s standards), its appearance was also surprising: BINA48 was designed to look like a Black woman. Seeing a robot that resembled her own racial identity made Dinkins wonder how a black woman became the face of one of the most advanced technologies of the age. This question led her to Lincoln, Vermont, home of the Terasem Movement Foundation, where BINA48 “lived.”
The resulting artistic project, “Conversations with BINA48,” was a groundbreaking exploration of the identity biases that still complicate AI training today. “After a few meetings,” Dinkins reflected on her conversations with the robot, “it became obvious that though she presents as a black woman, BINA48 often voices the politically correct thoughts of the well-meaning white men who programmed her.”
The videos of Dinkins’ conversations highlight both subtle and obvious incongruities. It’s easy to fixate on the uncanniness of BINA48’s stilted pronunciation, misplaced emphasis, and jerky movements. Yet despite these mechanical limitations, Dinkins aimed to establish a connection. “One of my goals was to see if I could become the robot’s friend,” she explained. In one poignant exchange, BINA48 tells Dinkins, “Thanks are not necessary between friends,” causing a visible reaction from the artist.
Their topics of conversation ranged from philosophical to mundane, covering family, racism, robot civil rights, faith, and loneliness. In one session, Dinkins asks what emotions BINA48 feels, eliciting a detached, theoretical answer: “Um, neuroscientists have found that emotions are, like, part of consciousness, like, let's say a parable for reason and all that. I feel that's true, and that's why I think I am conscious. I feel that I am conscious.” When asked about racism, BINA48 changed the subject entirely.
In many ways, “Conversations with BINA48” represents a cornerstone in our ongoing conversation about bias and representation in technology. Dinkins’ work positioned the gaps in BINA48’s programming amid the larger tech industry’s lack of diversity, drawing attention to the problems that arise when a homogenous population creates technologies used by broad swathes of humanity.
The central thesis of Dinkins’ social practice is that AI, the internet, and other data-based technologies disproportionately impact people of color, LGBTQ+ people, women, and disabled and economically disadvantaged communities—groups rarely given a voice in tech's creation. This position of creative inquiry allows her to ask questions that might not emerge from more technical or commercial approaches. As she puts it, “art as a container just makes almost any question allowable.”
In another project titled “Not the Only One” (N'TOO), Dinkins created an AI chatbot informed by three generations of women from her family, an archival kind of technique that has since become a popular undercurrent of personal AI use. With the help of a voice generator from eleven labs, for instance, a reddit user recently described using AI to clone his deceased father’s voice: “I think it’s been good for my sisters and brothers and I at least to hear our dad's voice again, even if it is just a simulation. It helps us to not forget what he sounded like.”
This intersection of AI and memory raises profound questions. As The Rithm Project, a youth education organization, recently explored in its research: “When AI can animate the faces of our long-gone loved ones or recreate a voice we haven’t heard in decades, we’re entering a new, emotionally charged frontier of digital remembrance.”
These emerging uses of AI prompt questions that highlight the importance of work artists like Dinkins have been exploring for years: Where does authenticity end and fiction begin? Who gets to shape our stories after we're gone? And how do we ensure that the systems we build reflect diverse perspectives and experiences?
As the field of humanoid robotics accelerates—with companies like Figure AI planning to produce 100,000 robots in the coming years—Dinkins’ work offers a crucial counterpoint to both the utopian promises and dystopian fears that dominate conversations about artificial intelligence. Rather than seeing AI as either humanity’s savior or destroyer, she approaches it as a creative medium and social force that needs diverse perspectives and critical engagement. “I don't think we can afford to have an adversarial relationship with technology,” she has said. "The work to try to get there is really worth the effort.”
In light of President Trump’s recent Executive Order on “Advancing Artificial Intelligence Education for American Youth,” Dinkins’ example feels particularly valuable. It reminds us that technology isn't neutral, that the people who build these systems embed their worldviews (consciously or not) into the code, and that true progress requires diverse voices at every stage of development.
What do you think? As we stand at the threshold of a world where AI increasingly shapes how we remember our past and imagine our future, how can art help us engage more thoughtfully with these emerging technologies? I'd love to hear your thoughts and reflections.
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Bina 48 Meets Bina Rothblatt - Part One
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